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Another Day, Another Starting Lineup

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Via Chris Forsberg of ESPN

Already down Rajon Rondo due to suspension and with Jermaine O'Neal (sprained left wrist) and Chris Wilcox (right adductor strain) nursing day-to-day injuries, the Celtics might be forced to use a 13th variation of their starting lineup Wednesday night during the pre-All-Star finale against the Oklahoma City Thunder.

A glance at the 12 other lineups used this season, with their record (with help from numbers maintained by Celtics' media relations):

CELTICS 2011-12 STARTING LINEUPS WITH RECORD

GamesForwardForwardCenterGuardGuardRecord
3 Pavlovic Garnett O’Neal Allen Rondo 0-3
12 Pierce Garnett O’Neal Allen Rondo 6-6
1 Pierce Garnett Stiemsma Allen Rondo 1-0
1 Pierce Garnett O’Neal Dooling Rondo 1-0
2 Pierce Garnett Bass Allen Rondo 0-2
4 Pierce Garnett O’Neal Allen Bradley 3-1
2 Pierce Bass Garnett Pietrus Bradley 2-0
1 Pierce Garnet O’Neal Pavlovic Bradley 1-0
1 Pierce Bass Garnett Allen Bradley 0-1
1 Pierce Wilcox Garnett Allen Rondo 1-0
1 Pierce Wilcox O’Neal Allen Rondo 0-2
1 Pierce Wilcox O’Neal Allen Bradley 0-1


What's startling to me is that we are only 31 games in and we've seen this many lineups for a team with four definite starters. The only spot in question may be the center spot, but it has remained clear that Jermaine O'Neal is Doc's starter when healthy. From my standpoint for a completely healthy roster, I'd like to see Chris Wilcox start games with the Big-4. Having someone to run with Rondo is a necessity and this lineup would also give the second unit a bonafide defending big man in O'Neal. They haven't lost with this starting lineup yet (1-0 baby!) although it was against the D-Roseless Bulls. Wilcox needs a playmaker on the floor with him to maximize his efficiency getting to the rim and Rondo fits this bill perfectly. Why not give it a shot Doc? What do you guys think?

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Bradley and Stiemr both with winning records as starters--

—looks good to me!

What I think is important is GS is in with KG and AB is in with PP.

interesting

that our primary starting line-up has been used the most by far and is only .500. tough to have a rosy outlook for the season and playoffs with that figure.

this is not interesting

and provides no insights whatsoever

most salient point

is that “primary” lineup 0nly 6-6
also that “primary” lineup only started 12 of 31 games.

bradley 6-3 also significant.

Zero wins without with either Garnett or Pierce out (0-4). Zero losses with Allen out (4-0). And 6-3 with Rondo out., for a good measure.

Draw your own conclusions.

Drawn conclusions.

I conclude that drawn conclusions as to value of any players from these numbers is useless, as they are just numbers. They don’t take at all into consideration the opponent, opponents injuries, back to backs or any of the litany of factors that could have had an impact on the game.

This Sounds Crazy But...

The old guys (Garnett, Allen, Pierce, and JO) have been very successful with Avery Bradley. Why not start Avery? The Big Three can cover his offensive deficiencies and he puts pressure on their starting point guard. Then, have Rondo run with our more athletic bench (Pietrus, Bass, Wilcox, and Dooling). This puts Rajon in more of a creative role vs. a facilitator. There might be some concerns about his ego, but I think the kid can take it. Really, it’s more a compliment than an insult.

Starting line up should be

Bradley
Allen
Pierce
Garnett
Steisma

Bench
Pietrus
Moore
Daniels
JJJ
Dooling
Pavlovic

So basically 1 big man coming off the bench with 2 small forwards, 2 shooting guards, and 1 point guard.

Uh...

Where’s Rondo?

I thinks it's for tonight's game only :)
IMO when I see those stats...

…the team operates better with a mix of young and old in starting and bench lineups. Bradley and/or Stiemsma gives that extra energy needed in the starting five plus their mistakes are not so noticeable when surrounded by a few vets. The right mixture of youth and experience. The best way to go for this team rather than the geriatric starting five Doc keeps insisting to throw out there on a regular basis.

Post Blow-Up lineup

Bradley
Pierce
Pietrus
Bass
Stiemsma

almost a guarantee by April 1st

I think more likely PP and RA go and KG stays.
And Rondo?

Somehow I’ll still be surprised if that happens.

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