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Agreed

Yeah people may be tired of hearing it, but its the truth, what about this lol? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7gbcn52 Give Atlanta a first rounder or two as well. And entice a Dwight Howard and or Deron Williams in the off season if able. (Yes I’m just talking out of my butt with this idea, just frustration and boredom lol)

Hammerhead7 - February 10, 2012 reply

NOT YET CONVINCED....

Fan post to fix what ails us… take a look.

greensince72 - February 10, 2012 reply

Yuck....

This was a ugly performance by the C’s.

I do not blame Doc one bit for being so mad tonight that you could fry a egg on his head.

fordescort - February 10, 2012 reply

Doc was heated!

Was nice to see him get as pissed as the rest of us have been, but Im not sure its all on the players. Clearly frustration has set in. This team needs to find an identity, be it with or without rondo,KG, etc…AND FAST!

cltc5 - February 10, 2012 reply

He should be mad at himself

for that crappy offensive system

Yikes...

at least Toronto’s mascot is a dinosaur and not their players…
we had NO legs tonight, or anything for that matter, better get some good rest for Sunday:(

Have a feeling Sunday will not be pretty!

Yea Joakim Noah is playing so you know it aint gonna pretty

Haha

Well let’s just hope that’s the only reason

No surprise there.

There has really been no shortage of frustrating losses for the Celtics this season. From the opening tip you would know that they want to give Toronto a freebie instead of having pride in avenging a tough loss the night before. They were simply going through the motions.

LarryBird33 - February 10, 2012 reply

No Effert...

I’m very disappointed they didn’t come out the gate with a good start and not give Toronto a chance at this game. Worse game I’v seen Rondo play, just awful, no offence, no defence, should have been benched in this one.

I wanted to scream through the television...

…at our guys standing around on defense all too often. I swear that once Rondo’s man got around him while Rondo was standing so straight up that his knees were locked. I can take the sloppy shots, the failure to aggressively go at the rim… but to play such sloppy defense was hard to watch.

This game....

Master Po - February 10, 2012 reply

Is pressing the pointless button ...

better or worser then pressing a panic button?….lol

fordescort - February 10, 2012 reply

Gotta be better.

Did Rajon just write the Psot-game for Jeff?

Sorry, kind of read like it was going through the motions (smile)

Tenacious D - February 10, 2012 reply

I guess we never know which team we're gonna see

I’d like the one I saw after the first few games and prior to the last two. Which one is the real Celtics?

Delusional people will keep telling you, "it's just one game!"

No, it’s not. You know what’s embarrassing? A front court of Aaron Gray and Amir Johnson out rebounding our team. You know what’s embarrassing? Our supposedly Top 5 PG getting outplayed by Jose Calderon. Time to face reality. Same old, same old.

Celticsdude - February 10, 2012 reply

what's more embarassing...

A coach that wont sit its ineffective starters

cltc5 - February 10, 2012 reply

I agree...

tonight was a perfect game to go deep into the bench.

The starters were ineffective, they were tired from last night so had no legs tonight and it would of been good to give them some rest to prep for Sundays game.

I just do not understand Docs resistance to utilize the bench especially in games like tonight.
If Doc does not play the bench in games like tonight when will he?
Also it was very frustrating especially with JO out to see the Steamer benched again and not get any minutes !

fordescort - February 10, 2012 reply

JaJaun only 8 minutes, would have definitely played him more, and would have played anybody health besides Rondo tonight. He made Calderon look like an allstar with 17 & 14 boards.

*

Meant to say assist not boards.

Steamer needed to be in there

The Raptors TV team was talking about how Toronto had nothing to fear inside since we don’t have any shot blockers. Not true — we had a great one sitting on the bench!

I think tonight was more on side of our starter were to blame. So our starter have to be the ones on the court out of energy, hanging the loss on themselves.

But I agree, I thought 4th quarter should have been Moore, daniels, pietrus, johnson, stiemsma.

jdunn123 - February 10, 2012 reply

yeah right doc should be fired too his stubborn.

reb0undwins18 - February 11, 2012 reply

Absolutely right...

We have a good bench, and frankly Doc should have sent the second team out and told them “you guys are as good as their starters, now go win the game for us.” Instead, we were watching Garnett out there a half-step behind all night, getting even further worn down. Allen played OK, but not well enough to be worth wearing him out.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1402791&format=&page=2&listingType=celt#articleFull

From this article it sounds like Doc chose to vent his wrath on a bench player (presumably Wilcox):

Rondo

With the monster game… let the barrage of excuses flow.

Ragetti - February 10, 2012 reply

rondo doesnt show up for half of the games he plays in

he’s a bum!

mdowell04 - February 10, 2012 reply

This, by far, is my fave article of yours, Jeff! :D

I’m serious! I was actually thinking of the same thing that’ll happen here in the comments section…. Pointing out the predictable comments that will be after a very ugly game hahah… i looove it! :D

Well, every time the C’s lose., I always switch channels to other games… The Magic lost in OT, dying by the 3pt-attempts when they’re only down by 2 & they have the best center available…. The Sixers lost to an incredible game-winning shot by CP3 – that’s why he was worth all the trade-rumor-trouble.

There was one thing I liked in this Raptors game though…. Doc calling another timeout in the 1st to “give it” to his troops!

Anyway, a win over the Bulls will definitely shut up our frustrated thoughts… so, cross your fingers, toes, legs, eyes… ;)

Moses Freeman Jr. - February 10, 2012 reply

Back to back

we are not that good in back to back games especially when the starters play 30+ Minutes. thus, no energy, no legs and no entushsiaim

Let's brace ourselves for that back to back... to back moment soon hehe

That's actually the next time we play the Raptors...

@ Raptors
@ Nets
@ Bobcats

Could be worse… then again who knows at this point

CBanner18Scout - February 10, 2012 reply

RAPT ATTENTION

No Sasha, no JO, again no Dooling,
For Raptors no Bargnani, they’ve needed retooling.
But they have Johnson, another Johnson, too,
They all agree a Cs pounding won’t do.

One Raptors possession two Cs went down,
Think they needed a rest, came late into town.
The Raptors are energized, they are tired of losing,
Taking advantage of the Cs who seem to be snoozing.

Doc’s full timeout, told the guys they’ve no emotion,
Called a second timeout, saw a rare Doc explosion.
Q1 Bradley in, even with a sore shoulder,
Brought some energy to the guys who played like they’re older.

Q2 an early spark from Pietrus, Bass and KG,
Bradley playing offense and his stellar D.
Cs are pushed and tossed all over the court,
From the Raptors Cs are playing some other sport.

An unRondo-like game, getting nothing done,
Been like this—throughout—since Q1.
There has been no defense from the Cs starting group,
7:43 left Q3—Rondo’s first hoop.

Cs are dribbling around, not even setting a play,
Feels like the Raptors will get their payback today.
16 point Raptor lead, they’ve gotten there twice,
The Cs offense and defense in Q3 turned to ice.

Rondo flying into the paint, then passing out to the rim,
Shot clock keeps winding down, what’s wrong with him?
For a change of pace, the Cs two-three zone,
KG’s yelling at everyone, he is scoring alone.

Tension between Rondo and Kleiza could not be missed,
It was Kleiza who took Rondo down when he hurt his wrist.
How did the refs miss Pierce getting pushed to the ground?
Doc so angry throughout this game, uttering not a sound.

As the Cs found no energy that could be tapped,
We found, most of all, it was Doc tightly “rapt!”

mycelts - February 10, 2012 reply

Back-to-backs

And this ain’t nothing compared to the upcoming schedule! In all honesty I’m happy the Big 3 brought us a championship, but it’s time to go old fellas. Thanks for the wonderful times and our two trips to an NBA Finals. They were unwilling, groggy, beat, uninspired tonight. But yet it was obvious that had this game not been a back-to-back involving a previous OT game, the C’s would have done alot better. Now it’s time for Celticsblog to start panicking and rant once more the “Blow it up” story! I see a 14-13 record by the end of the week. You know what? I can’t wait for this brutal SEASON to end!! The mere curiosity of this team’s future is interesting as it is scary. I’m not gonna be surprised if come March Danny ships out Rondo and seals the fate of the Big 3: missing the playoffs. Guess I won’t be buying any Rondo Boston merchandise, cuz it’s more than obvious he’s a goner once the opportunity arises for DA to trade him away. Sad sad indeed, I had nothing but high hopes for the PG. But seeing D.Rose surpass him greatly in the East and the arrival of D-Will to NJ, the ranks for the once considered “best pure PG” diminishes into an abyss of shame. And until we acquire a big to get REBOUNDS, we will forever dwell in the bottom of the barrel regarding the such.

I'm not looking to buy ANY player-specific C's merchandise until after the trade deadline

Even though I absolutely love this season’s gray shooting shirts.

Moses Freeman Jr. - February 10, 2012 reply

very wise of you

I resemble that remark

Maybe Pierce’s jersey LOL! He’s been a Celtic since the late 90’s

CBanner18Scout - February 10, 2012 reply

Well I would hope

And that’s whose I would buy anyway, but I still wouldn’t bet the farm on it.

sad to say but this is the end of the big three era.

reb0undwins18 - February 11, 2012 reply

or shud i say after the 2010 nba finals its the end of the boston big three.

same problems all over again. standing like candles allowing teams to clash the offensive and defensive glass allergic to box out! its pathetic!

reb0undwins18 - February 11, 2012 reply

Doc saying

He got so heated because they couldn’t even execute out of a time-out. Said one person didn’t know the play and that wasn’t professional. I wonder who? Also said he probably should’ve gone back to Bradley. Uh, yeah.

Ah but... there's the Bradley-actually-being-injured factor.

Yes, I wondered if his shoulder had got worse

But he sure looked good when he was in there and Doc didn’t mention the injury, only that Rondo had started to get it going. Really?

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1402791&format=&page=2&listingType=celt#articleFull

This article makes it sound like it was Wilcox:

time to face reality folks...

this team lost a game. they’ll probably lose another at some point. rondo looked terrible tonight. he’ll probably be fine. couldn’t rebound tonight. probably won’t again, in the future. still a pretty dang good team.

What is your definition of a pretty "dang" good team?

Because this Celtics team does not meet my definition of a good team

Moses Freeman Jr. - February 10, 2012 reply

Rondos terrible

Love him to death but we can barely score with him at the helm.

StarzNBarz - February 10, 2012 reply

Winter is coming!

Hurhur

Casperian - February 10, 2012 reply

The fact of the matter

We have some great players on our teams. They are talented individuals and who know how to play the game. As a unit they are not so great due to experiences-years. They really could help other teams climb the playoff ladder more than they can help us get to the playoffs. The schedule94 games/per week is too brutal for them.

Trade Rondo, I'm through with this.

Convince me the Celtics are still contenders IF they win on Sunday afternoon.

Thanks for the laugh Jeff

I needed it.

frizzle1991 - February 10, 2012 reply

Lol the predicting of comments is hilarious

and spot on.

kg2128 - February 10, 2012 reply

I have never been so happy in my life to have had to miss a Celts game

Just got home from the high school musical production in my town. From what I have heard about the game, it was much better than the Celts’ performance tonight.

Fork meet Celtics.

The detonator is about to go off.

Unless everyone just stood around and forgot their lines and didn’t say a word and didn’t even care, then yes, I’m sure the musical had to be better. I’m sure the performers put forth an effort executed what they had practiced.

Very good!

winter is coming

are u a fan of george rr martin jeff? i am.
anyway i figured doc doesn’t want to rest his starters because he doen’t want to hurt their egos. and that way their bodies will break down faster and they will retire earlier then doc can employ the young turks more often. LOL

nox45 - February 10, 2012 reply

just finished book 1

loved it – starting book 2 now

Jeff Clark - February 10, 2012 reply

On the other hand...

New York Knicks led by Jeremy Lin are doing damage against the Lakers!!

It's a telling contrast.

i for one

am glad they’re pacing themselves. finish just above .500 and do your damage in the playoffs, fellas.. could use a center though. or two.

Just curious. Do you really believe this or just trying to be super optimistic?

well i didn't see the game til the last 2 mins

but it sounds like they got beat on the glass and pretty much mailed it in. they’ve done it before. they’re old.. i mean, do you really believe that they tried their hardest?

Not sure since I did not see the game

But what I do believe is this team is going nowhere. I only wish the rebuilding could begin now.

yeah def

can’t wait til we’re a bad team again.. hate winning so much and playing good basketball most of the time.. hate that..

Yeah. Let's delay the rebuilding and be a team that gets 7th or 8th seed every year -- awesome

lol

So when we are losing 60 games a year will you become an optimist?

Just playin

Jeff Clark - February 10, 2012 via iPhone app reply

Hey -- I sat through the 19-game losing streak

Worst season-ticket year of my life

They definitely did not try their hardest

At least I hope not

putrid. i should just leave it at that. i won’t even write them off. rondo was the main culprit- he flat out stunk, stank and worse than that. i think doc left him out there to punish him. if he’s not hurt he is sulking. played ole on calderon and made soft passes and no penetration. if he is sulking, he’s a major head case.if not, he should be resting and not on the floor.

nazzbo - February 10, 2012 reply

Maybe it was to punish Rondo cause I don’t understand 41 mins.

Reminded me of the Rondo we saw right after the Perk trade

+100

getting paid millions for that crap. Who does he think he is?

mdowell04 - February 10, 2012 reply

snarf

CelticSooner - February 10, 2012 reply

+1

Jeff Clark - February 10, 2012 via iPhone app reply

snarf snarf

One of those games

Where I kept watching and waiting for something to happen, for them to turn it on, and it just never did. Very disappointing.

Well put.

Are these really the prideful Boston Celtics???

After the Laker loss last night so many kept saying ‘only a one point loss’ ‘nothing to worry about’ ‘Rondo isn’t at fault’ ‘this team is in good shape’ and countless other positive thoughts.

Now after the Celtics got dominated by a terrible Raptors team wonder what can be said now? Tonight was absolutely pathetic. No excuse for the Celtics to play this poorly. Rondo.was awful but he had plenty of company. The Celtic offense looked as if they decided to execute their horrific late game offense for a full 48 minutes. Hard to fathom that a team featuring Rondo and 3 hall.of famers can’t break 80 points against the Raptors.

Inexcusable effort tonight from which even the most optimistic will find little to celebrate…

warnerjohn - February 10, 2012 reply

+1

Worse game I’v seen them play, yet they still could have won with Any kind of effort, because it was the Raptors.

CBanner18Scout - February 10, 2012 reply

Rondo's painful descent down the PG ladder is a sad sight for Boston fans

It’s sad to see how NOBODY in the NBA respects Rondo’s shooting and probably never will. He’ll keep this up and I promise to anyone that not only is he gonna get traded, he’ll probably become a bench PG, as the emergence of amazing PG’s will without a doubt continue. Look at how Irving on his FIRST season is leading the crappy Cavs, how Ricky Rubio is giving Minnesota relevancy once more since KG took sail to Boston. D.Rose not only leads the Bulls, he is a 2x MVP, the youngest ever. The CP3 and Griffin duo is all the talks in LA and in the league, Jeremy Lin is creating a MASSIVE buzz! Westbrook is destroying the west alongside Durant and Harden. John Wall and D-Will aren’t getting much love cuz they’re playing for horrid teams, but if they weren’t, the league would be shamelessly pondering “Rondo who?”. Where does Rondo stand now? In the tier of Nelson, Chalmers, Shumpert, man that hurts me inside to see how a perceived great player is sinking into the shadows of others little by little. The Big 4 are coming to an end, and we’ll probably be a bad team again. But then again we might not be, I DUNNO!! So frustrating!!! Maybe I should lay-off the basketball ambiance for a while. sigh

I want to see a three-way that somehow includes Hibbert.

The two old, formerly dominant and now almost irrelevant teams both lost tonight

Lakers and Celts don’t matter anymore. How long before the Jeremy Lin-led Knicks pass the Celtics in the standings?

Not long

Knicks are going to be a great team. This year.

Hold on a sec

When Carmelo comes back…this Knicks team will be a different team again.

I'm sorry

*Carmelo AND Amare

Correct

They will then be that much better. There’s a ton of talent on that team, and now that that they have a PG, NBA better watch out.

I meant different as going downhill

You have ballhogger Anthony back…I have a feeling Lin isn’t going to post up that many points like the past few days when those two come back.

But perhaps

Lin can teach Melo how to play team basketball…hahahah.

I knew that's what you meant

…which is why I answered as I did

JR99 - February 11, 2012 reply

So would the Knicks take Rondo for Lin?

haha

TheBigFive - February 10, 2012 reply

No they would not

Would you?

Yea I would

And you would be mistaken

imho

Rondo is no longer the same after that Perkins trade

Need I remind you?! D;

Agree

His play after the Perkins trade accentuated it.

But I’d say it’s the decline of the Big Three that has really shown him up.

Horrible game to watch

They played like they didn’t care, that was really the bottom line for me. I’m sure these guys were tired physically and mentally, but they played like they weren’t trying. It was a disgrace really.

p-peazy - February 10, 2012 reply

I have never seen Doc so angry in a post game press conferece

Calling guys unprofessional (though he did not name them), saying they were mentally weak, etc. etc. Only two guys he really said anything positive about were Pietrus and KG. Gotta wonder who the screwups are and if Doc will sit these guys.

#1, I believe, is Rondo

Which KG performance was he praising?

Maybe KG was brilliant while I was moving laundry or doing bench presses or something. I thought he was dragging through the whole game, esp. on offense. We had started to see some flashes of the old KG in the last half-dozen games, but not tonight. Not saying it is because of lack of effort — have no way of knowing that — but he would have done better playing 3 minutes a quarter or so. Don’t get me wrong, I love KG, but he just shouldn’t be made to be out there trying to carry things when his legs are just not there.

Doc:

“Mickael Pietrus, I’ll use him as an example. He’s been here the least amount of time, he knows every single rotation and every single set, because he’s a pro. [Not knowing the rotations and sets is] just unacceptable.”

More here:
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4689653/observations-doc-the-awful-effort

My thoughts exactly on Pietrus… especially those in here enraged by MP3’s “lack of inside offense”… These guys have set plays and roles. Even before he got to play for the C’s, everyone said ha can shoot 3’s… so, in offensive sets, he’s doing what it calls for… to extend the offensive option to the rainbow territory.

Doc always say's the right things, just hope he can fix this.

Nice to hear Rondo know he was playing like crap, should have sat him self on the bench.

How Aaron Gray and Amir Johnson

can outrebound us is beyond me, but hey, I guess there are more important things other than rebounds.

There was one specific play, I think it was 4 min to go in the 4th quarter where the Cs were trying to make a comeback. A raptor misses a shot and KG starts running to the other side. Nobody rebounds the ball I think Amir just kind of got it and made an easy deuce. Almost puked in my mouth a little.

TheBigFive - February 10, 2012 reply

Nice to see another new injury for JO. Now it is his shoulder

Total waste of money

That reminds me I wonder if Keyon Dooling is still day to day???

warnerjohn - February 10, 2012 reply

Hahaha. He has been day-to-day all year

They don’t even talk about him anymore

vinnie - February 11, 2012 reply

"Don't taze me bro"

… just about says it all. We’re on the ground, and they’re tazin’ our twitching corpses.

I know every team has bad games, 1 or 2 bad nights don’t mean they can’t be great again, they will probably bounce back, yada, yada, yada…. but it doesn’t feel that way right now. It feels like…. don’t taze me bro.

remember that one time

that the majority on this blog were against trading for cp3 before the season started….or people were talking about how they prefered to have rondo as opposed to a derrick rose…..

piccolomair - February 10, 2012 reply

Really???

Some of these guys are crazy. Rondo over Rose??

Danny should start looking for a Chinese-looking player..

..He might get lucky and get a Jeremy Lin :)

jess m - February 10, 2012 reply

But the Knicks game was awesome

Jeremy Lin put on a clinic that I wish Rondo would attend. LA got beat…. one day late.

I wish we had a jeremy lin type player

Every game, every chance on the floor this guy is giving his all. He might not be perfect but u can never say the effort and desire isnt there. This is the nba. Every game, every play, players should be going ALL OUT. Lin probably makes a fraction of what tons over over paid guys in the nba make that take games off on a weekly basis. I really do like our team but if we were to blow it up, I would much rather a squad of average hard working guys like the nuggets, than a team with a “superstar(s)” that take their pay, their skills, and their opportunities for granted

Kgwillkillyou - February 11, 2012 via mobile reply

Hahah my apologies for cussing, admins!

I guess I was pissed that they lost to a team like this and letting my bipolar and hostility side take over.

Anyways, can’t wait for the next game!! :D

Doc, Rondo, 3 Hall of Famers = 74 points??? Something just doesn't add up

Celtics were outrebounded again but that doesn’t really matter I guess.

Looking at the 74 points for the Celtics I keep waiting for it to update thinking the 4th quarter points haven’t been factored in. Forgetting everything else it’s just hard to believe how inept the Celtics offense can be.

Not a huge fan of the +/- stat but some use it to defend a player’s performance. Rondo was 2-10 from the field with 5 TO’s and a +/- of -16 that makes sense.

Judging by the +/- Doc needs to find more minutes for Marquis Daniels ASAP. He scored 4 points and only played 9 minutes but myst have been the catalyst for the Celtics brief period of great play. The C’s were a startling +10 in his limited minutes so maybe he is the mysterious cure to the Celtics offensive woes!

warnerjohn - February 10, 2012 reply

I've been saying it forever the offense sucks

Sarcazmo's Funhouse - February 11, 2012 reply

It's all over, people!

First, we need to Blow it up, then fire Doc Rivers, then Danny Ainge, then trade Pierce, Rondo and Ray Allen for Jeremy Lin, Aaron Gray, and a 43 year old Steve Nash.

After this, we need to forfeit the next 4 games. Just to admit defeat publicly and let it be known that there is absolutely, positively no hope for this team. I tell you it’s all over people.

Also, Rondo is terrible. I played him one on one and I just kept dunking on him. He was wearing a shirt that says “I suck” for some reason

BlackMass - February 10, 2012 reply

I've a feeling Jeff's original title for this article was...

“Quis stuck in armpits”

japsuki - February 11, 2012 reply

You make jokes Black Mass

But TRADE FOR STEVE NASH! He is leading the league in assists right now and is one of those few guys (like Ray Allen) who doesn’t seem to age. He plays his heart out every game and has been cursed having to lead poorly assembled squads most of his career. With Steve Nash, teams can no longer play 5 on 4 defense when the ball is in our possession with Rondo at the helm.

PHX gets to rebuild with an all-star talent point guard in/approaching his prime and Nash gets to go the distance with a quality team for once in his career. If we can throw in draft picks or O’Neal rather keep him for big man depth) in order to get Gortat (or to a lesser extent Lopez), MAKE IT HAPPEN! With Nash filling the huge-gaping hole in our offense which is a point guard who is unable to shoot the ball, then we suddenly have the deadliest shooting offense in the league!

I don’t care what anybody says, and granted, the lack of a legitimate big man to bang around in the paint and grab boards and properly compliment KG is a close second, Rondo not being able to buy a basket from the field is KILLING us! The main advantage of Rondo is his speed, if he’s not using that, defenders back way off him and offer better help defenders to our other players who can actually shoot and dare him to take the shot.

If he’s not running and constantly pushing the ball, wearing defenses down, and being forced to take more shots than anyone cares to see him take, then he is rendered useless and is a huge offensive liability. I really did love the idea of signing Howard and him, Rondo and Green flying up and down the court like noble steeds across the plains of the mid-west blowing by the opposition like figments of their imaginations, but enough is enough.

Rondo is a head case and is NOT the future of this franchise. Trade for Nash, that’s a HUGE start. Get another big in the process if you can pull off that general managerial trickery Ainge to help us THIS year, and after we go all the way (Banner 18) and our new and improved “Old four” show the world that experience, heart and basketball smarts will always prevail, Dwight Howard will realize his destiny and how our Jurassic 4 can legitimately compete for another 2 or 3 titles with him (DH12) manning the middle.

Your line up this year
PG:Nash, Dooling, Bradley
SG:Allen, Daniels, Moore
SF:Pierce, Pietrus, Pavlovic
PF:KG, Bass, Johnson
C:Gortat, Wilcox, O’Neal or Stiemsma (depending what deal is made to get Nash)

This team goes all the way and is ultimately what makes DH12 choose Boston and then to make it work, Nash, Allen and Garnett all come back on a fraction of their current salaries so we can give Dwight his pay day and keep our current bench all-stars Bass and Pietrus (lock these dudes up Ainge!) and then give Green a one year “prove yourself” deal which he gracefully accepts for all believing in him, and sticking by him in a time of need. And look at that same roster next year with a few tweaks and upgrades.

PG:Nash, Dooling (maybe), Bradley
SG:Allen, Daniels (maybe), Moore
SF:Pierce, Green, Pietrus
PF:KG, Bass, Johnson
C:Howard, Gortat, Wilcox

I say between Dooling, Daniels and Pavlovic keep whoever plays the best the rest of the way and see if there’s anything better in the 2nd and 3rd tier free-agents market this summer, but overall, I don’t have any major problems with them. It’d be interesting to start Pietrus and let Ray be our 6th man, 3-point threat off the bench to lead the second squad.
I know I went on a bit of a fantasy rant, but the bottom line is get rid of Rondo, I don’t care if our average starting five age would be like 35, with the Big Three on the brink of dismantlement and Nash with his last true shot at a ring and no contractual obligations beyond this season, you pull that trigger. Nobody believes we’re going anywhere this year so why not do it with former 2x MVP, current league-leading in assist, SHOOTING point guard instead?

Mikey Bizzle - February 11, 2012 reply

+1000

Love the way you think…DEAD on!

Kgwillkillyou - February 11, 2012 via mobile reply

How long did it took for you to write this?

I wish that was my essay…

SparzWizard - February 11, 2012 reply

Lol

The chances of this happening…

.001%

AlexC - February 11, 2012 reply

Who was DOC calling out...

Ive never seen DOC go off like that before. I didnt see the game. Who was he reffering too?

Rondo

Tho he didn’t specify.

JR99 - February 11, 2012 reply

By this story it sounds like Wilcox:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1402791&format=&page=2&listingType=celt#articleFull

It was mostly pent-up anger

So it all typed out pretty quickly actually. Forgot to mention how, say we don’t go all the way with that Nash in green scenario, that would leave us with even more cap-space for Celts rebuild 2012 (Howard and Williams, perhaps?).

Mikey Bizzle - February 11, 2012 reply

I really think its not the players. Its the coach, I love doc but hes gotta use all the tools hes got in his bag. Its not like the young ones havent proven themselves useful. The blow it up button? Sheesh. Some fans are really fickle minded. Please remember that you cant win them all. The best teams have bad days. The worst teams have good days.

The green mamba - February 11, 2012 via mobile reply

I think there is something to what you say.

Talent should out

Granted teams have off nights. Granted in the round of 82, er 66, teams will coast. On those nights, weaker teams will play them close. Til about the 4th period, when the better team goes into a higher gear and ends it. Our Cs coasted, right off the road. Not being physically dominant, they have to play hard. Main guys arent bringing it, may as well run the Pine Gang.

Tenacious D - February 11, 2012 reply

NBA Basketball

Sometimes it is HOOOOORRRRRRRIIIIIIIBBBBBBLLLLEEEE!!!!!!

QuinielaBox - February 11, 2012 reply

Yup

Glad to see Jeff has the same mentality I do… this team is boring. Who cares. Either fix the massive problems to make us a contender… or blow it up. Until then… “yawn”…

I too missed this game. DIdn’t even care to watch it. I haven’t been this bored watching the Celtics in years.

LarBrd33 - February 11, 2012 reply

im glad i watched the jeremy lin show instead.

pure basketball clinic that he put up tonight against the Fakers.

At one point even Kobe was guarding him coz he was tearing it up unlike the way kobe being miles away from Rondo.

I betcha the next time we face NY, we would be destroyed.

bopna - February 11, 2012 via mobile reply

Nah

Not if Carmelo plays. New York Knicks have two teams. The Jeremy Lin team, and the Carmelo/Amare team…only one of them will take the title of the Knickerbockers! Of course, Carmelo is their weak-link with all of his ballhogging skills whereas Jeremy is the one who leads the Knicks to a brighter success.

If Carmelo leads, the Knicks will be a below average team. If Jeremy Lin leads…then, well, they’re pretty darn good!

SparzWizard - February 11, 2012 reply

People are not so stupid

Melo, and certainly Stat, understand how to play the game. They will toe the line, with Lin as the leader of the offense, like any good point guard must be. Tho some have doubted Melo on this, seeing him on the sidelines genuinely thrilled by Lin’s performance makes it pretty clear that he’s just gonna make them better.

The Knicks are going to seriously contend, this season. Once Melo and Stat return, that team will be very, very hard to beat. Lin – Shum – Melo – Stat – Chandler, and the pretty damn good bench that we’ve seen over the past 4 games…. that’s a great team. They’re coming together… and right now, I’d take their chances this season over the Celtics’. And it’s not even close.

JR99 - February 11, 2012 reply

I agree, though I've not great confidence in D'Antoni to manage it all.

Nope

When Melo comes back…it’s going to be me first team second. Hence the reason why they lost to the Celtics last year. Hence the reason why they’ve been starting so bad lately.

SparzWizard - February 11, 2012 reply

Isn't Rondo young

Old guys are going to play bad on B2B nights. But Rondo looked older than Ray and Kevin. His unforced TO’s are really hurting this team. And all those missed out of control layups are the same as turnovers.

There are now 18 PG's with better A/TO ratios than the "best pure point guard in the league".